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Posted 01 September 2013 - 07:06 AM

I read Inositol is supposed to be effective for OCD problems. I've had OCD for years but it has lessened in severity. I accept yet to endeavour some Inositol. I read that an constructive dose for OCD is very high, at about 18 grams a day and stacked with choline of almost the same dosage. I hope a lower dose would be ok. I've tried pharmaceutical prescription drugs for OCD and depression years agone but I'g no longer a fan of prescription junk as it made symptoms and side effects a lot worse.

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 08:43 AM

, at well-nigh 18 grams a solar day and stacked with choline of about the same dosage. I hope a lower dose would be ok.

For choline in that location is a DRI of 550 mg and a UL of 3500mg set. Many feel adverse effects already much below that. Would increase choline very slowly.

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 09:47 AM

Eon-

I, too, used to suffer from OCD. The expert news is that it tends to get amend with age.

Likewise, the medical literature (and my ain feel) suggests that it is strongly related to a serotonin
deficiency.

I would suggest that if you want to try to care for your OCD with supplements, y'all stack your Inositol
with other serotonin-raising / anxiety-reducing supplements.

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:58 AM

That's interesting regarding the serotonin deficiency. I likewise have a eye valve problem chosen mitral valve prolapse. It is said to be linked to magnesium deficiency. I recollect my middle beats well these days ever since I take been supplementing with magnesium at 250mg daily. Not sure what the crusade of a serotonin deficiency is. I have tried five-htp, St. John'due south Wort and SAM-e all at once and I retrieve information technology was a bad combination. I recall Inositol is more than promising than any of those.

Eon-

I, besides, used to suffer from OCD. The good news is that it tends to get better with age.

Also, the medical literature (and my own experience) suggests that it is strongly related to a serotonin
deficiency.

I would advise that if you want to try to care for your OCD with supplements, you stack your Inositol
with other serotonin-raising / anxiety-reducing supplements.

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Posted 02 September 2013 - x:08 AM

oh by the mode how does an OCD sufferer e'er became serotonin scarce? Is information technology many factors? I've tried some psilocybin mushrooms before dosed at 2 grams dried. I think it has helped with my depression and OCD as information technology does play a role regarding serotonin, I think. I haven't used mushrooms in months though.

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 06:40 AM

I had just read that i of the main causes of serotonin deficiency is metal toxicity. I have been around metals almost all my life. What I meant past this is I am a bodybuilder which ways I have those iron weight plates in my house. Not sure if my serotonin deficiency had annihilation to practice with it merely all those years of grabbing something to eat without washing my hands after I had just touched those metals might be something to think nearly. I also know it was from lack of sleep likewise equally not supplementing with anything. I was one of those that felt didn't need "medicines", not fifty-fifty a multivitamin. So I judge I depleted myself of the proper nutrients. Regular foods alone can't do it all.

Regarding metal toxicity; the aluminium foil pans we use to bake, etc. I worked at a eating house before, ordinarily a fryer is metal and it sits within the hot oil, which probably melts the metals and we stop upwards consuming metals with our fries. The meat that nosotros only throw in the oven normally sits on the metal grill itself or placed on blistering foil pans, which is aluminum. Now, wouldn't a different medium be safer, say a wax newspaper? Some mediums are oven and microwave safe similar ceramic type baking plates. The drinking water that comes out of the faucet goes through metal pipes for the well-nigh part, not plastic. I use a water filter but this only lessens the intake of metals.

I read from the volume "Smart Drugs and Nutrients" well-nigh how to remove aluminums from the brain and body. Two acids: citric and malic acid. Malic is supposed to piece of work improve at removing metals from encephalon and nerve tissue while citric removes metals from body tissue. These 2 acids are common ingredients and additives in sodas and other drinks, but I think a bulk pulverization version of either 1 is better since I don't drink sodas or much fruit juices. I've seen citric acids being sold in majority powders and information technology'south very inexpensive. I haven't seen as well much of malic acrid existence sold. I'd have to expect around for it. Anyone here always supplemented with either fruit acids? I'd like to hear from you.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 09:52 PM

*eon*-

You lot are using OCD reasoning to explicate your OCD. Seriously dude... beginning of all, scientists aren't certain what causes OCD. Serotonin
deficiency is idea to exist a cause because increasing serotonin levels tends to decrease the severity of OCD symptoms in sufferers.

That doesn't prove conclusively that OCD is caused by serotonin deficiency. The relationship may exist a lot more complex.

I strongly doubtable that your contact with metal every bit you described is nix out of the ordinary and not the cause of your OCD. In whatever case,
if you desire to try something which is entirely prophylactic, y'all could try using Chlorella (Google 'Chlorella remove heavy metals').

I tried inositol once, and the effects were not that great. Plus, you have to swallow huge amounts for it to be effective. I didn't consume
huge amounts, primarily considering I got the runs from information technology.

I am surprised you had bad luck with five-HTP and St. John's Wort. How practice y'all mean it was a 'bad combination'?

I would try other anti-anxiety supplements. Magnesium is practiced. Effort also Theanine and Phosphatidyl Serine.

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 07:20 AM

Could OCD be the crusade of habit that turned into the OCD illness? A addiction like being too careful or worrying. I've had this since childhood and so in my teens it went downhill from there into my adulthood. I think I noticed my OCD in my late teens and at the time I didn't even know anything about such illness until in my 20's. That's why information technology'due south skillful to read. LOL.

I'll look into chlorella. I think my multi vitamin has that already so does inositol but lower dosages.

Every bit I mentioned in a higher place, I take mitral valve prolapse (middle defect). From recent readings, 5-htp is non good for the heart. Maybe that was the reason why I had bad luck with it. I was told by someone that it was just a flake much to combine v-htp, st, john'due south wort, and SAM-e all at once. Information technology was not a synergistic stack. I haven't been on either those 3 in about iii years and I have been happy since.

Did you stack inositol with a choline?

I practise stack phosphatidyl serine with vinpocetine. I accept Fifty-theanine when I drinkable tea as information technology is said to be synergistic to accept with caffeine. I don't drinkable java that much. Magnesium I take daily as my heart defect is said to exist a magnesium deficiency.

I take some picamilon powders but I take non tried it yet. It is said to exist for anxiety. My OCD is not as bad as before. I've had it for over x years. It had been slowly decreasing just if inositol could make it all go abroad sooner, I'd exist happier.

Walnuts and hickory (which is pecan) is said to increase serotonin levels, college than any source outside of "supplements". Interesting that these two nuts are not as easily available as peanuts or almonds.

*eon*-

Y'all are using OCD reasoning to explicate your OCD. Seriously dude... first of all, scientists aren't sure what causes OCD. Serotonin
deficiency is thought to exist a cause because increasing serotonin levels tends to subtract the severity of OCD symptoms in sufferers.

That doesn't prove conclusively that OCD is caused by serotonin deficiency. The relationship may be a lot more circuitous.

I strongly suspect that your contact with metal as y'all described is nil out of the ordinary and not the crusade of your OCD. In whatever instance,
if you want to attempt something which is entirely safe, you could try using Chlorella (Google 'Chlorella remove heavy metals').

I tried inositol once, and the effects were non that great. Plus, you have to consume huge amounts for it to be effective. I didn't consume
huge amounts, primarily because I got the runs from information technology.

I am surprised you had bad luck with 5-HTP and St. John's Wort. How do yous mean it was a 'bad combination'?

I would try other anti-feet supplements. Magnesium is good. Endeavour besides Theanine and Phosphatidyl Serine.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 12:44 PM

I am hesitant near trying choline. If you search online in that location is quite a fleck of people who say choline increased their ocd. Choline is important for neural evolution, so it may be that since some neurons is already wired wrongly with ocd that choline may enhanced that faulty wiring.

I take non tried but did read adept things about using inositol at high doses; the highest was 18g a twenty-four hours. I would not expect Inositol to cure OCD, but it may help reduce ocd when used with techniques like CBT.

I have ocd. I am currently using techniques that I have learned from reading the volume "Encephalon Lock" and I see it is working gradually. I am also planning to beginning practicing mindfulness/insight meditation considering I read that information technology helps increment focus and train your heed to ignore thoughts, which is helpful in fighting ocd. I volition besides give Inositol a 2 month try. (I read somewhere that you demand to accept Inositol for at least 6 weeks to start seeing results) If you want to lessen your ocd (or put in remission) you will have to stay diligent as it take the encephalon several months to fix faulty wiring.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 07:49 PM

I am hesitant virtually trying choline. If you search online there is quite a chip of people who say choline increased their ocd. Choline is important for neural development, and then it may exist that since some neurons is already wired wrongly with ocd that choline may enhanced that faulty wiring.

I have not tried only did read skilful things nigh using inositol at loftier doses; the highest was 18g a day. I would non expect Inositol to cure OCD, but information technology may assistance reduce ocd when used with techniques like CBT.

I have ocd. I am currently using techniques that I have learned from reading the book "Brain Lock" and I see information technology is working gradually. I am too planning to showtime practicing mindfulness/insight meditation because I read that it helps increase focus and train your mind to ignore thoughts, which is helpful in fighting ocd. I will besides give Inositol a 2 month attempt. (I read somewhere that you demand to take Inositol for at least half dozen weeks to beginning seeing results) If you lot want to lessen your ocd (or put in remission) you will have to stay diligent every bit it accept the brain several months to fix faulty wiring.

interesting now that you mention information technology I think information technology increased my OCD lol

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 08:28 PM

As much as I'd similar to hear from someone actually succeeding with inositol, the sure way to go would be Luvox (fluvoxamine). Speaking from experience hither, 300mg cured my OCD similar magic.

But if you practise attempt inositol, make sure yous buy in majority. 18 mg/day for a few months is a lot of pulverisation.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 09:20 PM

There is no need for choline to be dosed equal to the amount of Inositol you utilise. You don't need to become over the daily required amount. Inositol may take up to 6 weeks to start working (at 18g/day), and it tin can be combined with 5-HTP to deal with the serotonin problems. Ideally you would accept the five-HTP sublingually, and so spit out whatever isn't absorbed afterward ten-fifteen minutes. If I remember correctly, taking 5-HTP sublingually gets around the centre problems. You tin search for this online to see if I'k correct.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:47 PM

You should commencement using Inositol at a depression dose and gradually work up to high daily doses to give your trunk time to conform using it. Once yous reach the high doses then give at least 6 weeks to encounter results.

When you begin taking the high daily doses make sure to spread it out into several minor ones throughout the 24-hour interval to avoid or lessen side effects (gas/bloat, sleepiness etc). I also read that individuals with bipolar disorder may have negative furnishings while on Inositol (increased agitation and impulsiveness, mania). And so if you are too bipolar or suspect you are bipolar, it is best to cheque with your doctor first.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:35 AM

I am hesitant most trying choline. If yous search online there is quite a bit of people who say choline increased their ocd. Choline is important for neural development, so it may be that since some neurons is already wired wrongly with ocd that choline may enhanced that faulty wiring.

I take non tried simply did read skillful things well-nigh using inositol at high doses; the highest was 18g a twenty-four hour period. I would not expect Inositol to cure OCD, simply it may help reduce ocd when used with techniques like CBT.

I take ocd. I am currently using techniques that I have learned from reading the book "Brain Lock" and I come across it is working gradually. I am also planning to start practicing mindfulness/insight meditation because I read that it helps increase focus and train your listen to ignore thoughts, which is helpful in fighting ocd. I will too give Inositol a ii month attempt. (I read somewhere that yous need to take Inositol for at to the lowest degree 6 weeks to start seeing results) If you want to lessen your ocd (or put in remission) you will have to stay diligent as it take the brain several months to fix faulty wiring.

Choline has not increased my OCD. I think information technology is still at the aforementioned level. Perchance the "thoughts" is making some people'southward OCD worse?

What is CBT?

Wouldn't "mindfulness" exist an OCD symptom? Wouldn't "mindlessness" exist more anti-OCD behavior? LOL. Maybe I got it backwards?

Equally much as I'd like to hear from someone actually succeeding with inositol, the sure fashion to become would exist Luvox (fluvoxamine). Speaking from feel here, 300mg cured my OCD like magic.

Just if yous do try inositol, make sure you buy in bulk. eighteen mg/day for a few months is a lot of powder.

Inositol in bulk is inexpensive, around $25 for 1 kilogram (1000 grams). Now that people started talking most Inositol, my supplier jacked upwardly the price to $xl! Why?

Is Luvox prescription? Is information technology sold in bulk powders? I like the discussion "cured" so that way I won't have to be stuck on Luvox forever.

There is no need for choline to be dosed equal to the amount of Inositol yous utilize. You don't need to go over the daily required amount. Inositol may take up to 6 weeks to start working (at 18g/solar day), and it can exist combined with v-HTP to deal with the serotonin bug. Ideally yous would take the five-HTP sublingually, then spit out whatsoever isn't absorbed later 10-15 minutes. If I retrieve correctly, taking 5-HTP sublingually gets effectually the eye problems. You lot can search for this online to see if I'g correct.

I read somewhere that mayhap serotonin deficiency is not the problem. Peradventure it is GABA deficiency. I tin can't recall the exact wordings. The daily foods we eat have serotonin in them so we practice go enough of information technology. Walnuts and pecans have them as well as other foods. When I tried Picamilon concluding night at just 50mg, it gave me such wonderful feeling. It's GABA with Niacin=Picamilon. My past stack of 5-htp, St. John'southward Wort and Same made my symptoms worse. I think I had too much serotonin going on and non enough GABA. Look it up.

I tin can eat some actually happy foods, which means my serotonin levels should be fine, my GABA isn't.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:41 AM

Which choline were yous taking and at what dosage? How long did you stay on it? This will indicate why your OCD got worse I would think.

I am hesitant about trying choline. If you search online there is quite a bit of people who say choline increased their ocd. Choline is important for neural development, so information technology may be that since some neurons is already wired wrongly with ocd that choline may enhanced that faulty wiring.

I have non tried just did read good things about using inositol at high doses; the highest was 18g a 24-hour interval. I would non expect Inositol to cure OCD, merely it may help reduce ocd when used with techniques like CBT.

I take ocd. I am currently using techniques that I have learned from reading the book "Brain Lock" and I come across it is working gradually. I am also planning to start practicing mindfulness/insight meditation because I read that it helps increase focus and train your heed to ignore thoughts, which is helpful in fighting ocd. I will also give Inositol a ii calendar month try. (I read somewhere that yous need to take Inositol for at least half dozen weeks to showtime seeing results) If you desire to lessen your ocd (or put in remission) you will have to stay diligent as it have the brain several months to set faulty wiring.

interesting now that y'all mention it I think information technology increased my OCD lol

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 11:26 AM

What is CBT?

CBT is Cerebral behavioral therapy.
http://en.wikipedia....avioral_therapy

At that place are dissimilar CBT approaches for different mental disorders. Yous tin can go to a professional for CBT treatment for OCD, or if you lot want can first try cocky-help with the book Brain Lock which was written specifically for people with OCD.:
http://world wide web.amazon.co...r/dp/0060987111

Wouldn't "mindfulness" be an OCD symptom? Wouldn't "mindlessness" exist more anti-OCD beliefs?

No. OCD is unwanted obsession and compulsions, and has zippo to do with mindfulness. Mindfulness promotes attentive sensation of reality and calmness. More psychological treatments are now making use of mindfulness techniques
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Mindfulness
http://en.wikipedia....ess_(psychology)

While mindfulness meditation has its origin in Buddhism, you don't actually need to believe in Buddhism. You just have to follow the techniques and many people from different walks of life use mindfulness meditation. Call up that different types of meditations are not the same and from what I accept read and so far only mindfulness/insight meditation has been seen every bit beneficial in help treating OCD and anxiety.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:18 PM

As much as I'd like to hear from someone really succeeding with inositol, the sure way to go would exist Luvox (fluvoxamine). Speaking from experience here, 300mg cured my OCD similar magic.

Merely if yous do try inositol, brand sure you buy in bulk. xviii mg/day for a few months is a lot of powder.

Inositol in bulk is inexpensive, around $25 for 1 kilogram (grand grams). Now that people started talking nearly Inositol, my supplier jacked upward the price to $40! Why?
Is Luvox prescription? Is information technology sold in majority powders? I like the give-and-take "cured" so that way I won't take to be stuck on Luvox forever.

Luvox is prescription (or should exist, as far as I understand U.s. laws). You lot can buy information technology online at United Pharmacies, though. It'southward a lot more expensive than inositol.

And as far every bit I'one thousand concerned, there is no absolute cure for OCD, it volition always come back at some betoken in the future. (Unless nosotros are talking encephalon surgery or something crazy like that)

All the same, this comeback should hopefully take years, and luvox is supposed to take care of it again, so no worries.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 01:48 AM

I want to add together that information technology'south important to know and go along in mind that studies show the thoughts that come to people with OCD are not dissimilar from the thoughts of people without OCD. The difference is how people with OCD react to the thoughts. And then such thoughts will always be with you considering information technology is a part of being man. What you tin can alter though is how you react to those thoughts. In one case you do that and continue to do then, the brain begins to work on fixing itself and over time such thoughts will occur less often.

A problem with some people who suffer OCD, get treatment, and relapse later is that they call up the thoughts themselves are the OCD. So if ane day they get a idea they acquaintance with OCD, they believe it is back and relapse. This is why you have to learn to not let the thoughts bother you lot.

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Posted fourteen September 2013 - 07:02 AM

Luvox belong in the class of drug called SRI. I have tried something similar several years agone, Zoloft, which I think is an SSRI. It's for treatment of OCD, amongst other things too. I wasn't likewise crazy for it. Non sure what the difference is, if any, betwixt an SRI or an SSRI. I haven't been on any prescription medication for over 5 years. My OCD has lessened throughout the years. I recollect I'm doing well with just "non prescription" alternatives.

As much as I'd like to hear from someone actually succeeding with inositol, the certain style to become would be Luvox (fluvoxamine). Speaking from experience here, 300mg cured my OCD similar magic.

But if you lot practise try inositol, make sure you buy in bulk. 18 mg/day for a few months is a lot of powder.

Inositol in majority is cheap, around $25 for 1 kilogram (g grams). Now that people started talking about Inositol, my supplier jacked up the price to $40! Why?
Is Luvox prescription? Is it sold in bulk powders? I similar the word "cured" so that way I won't accept to be stuck on Luvox forever.

Luvox is prescription (or should be, as far as I sympathise US laws). You can buy information technology online at United Pharmacies, though. It's a lot more than expensive than inositol.
And as far every bit I'm concerned, there is no accented cure for OCD, it will always come dorsum at some betoken in the time to come. (Unless nosotros are talking brain surgery or something crazy like that)

However, this comeback should hopefully take years, and luvox is supposed to take care of it again, and so no worries.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 07:07 AM

I will wait into the book. I come up from a family of doctors and nurses nonetheless no 1 could help me. LOL. They're non psychiatrists though. Even my erstwhile psychiatrist years back wasn't really in that location to help me on an individual basis. It's all a big concern and they want to see several patients get in and out so they can get that fat paycheck. Self help books are great but it'south not magic. I recall something chemical should be taken in to prepare whatsoever it is that is going on in the encephalon of an OCD sufferer.

What is CBT?

CBT is Cognitive behavioral therapy.
http://en.wikipedia....avioral_therapy
There are different CBT approaches for different mental disorders. Yous can become to a professional for CBT treatment for OCD, or if you want tin can first attempt self-help with the book Brain Lock which was written specifically for people with OCD.:
http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/0060987111

Wouldn't "mindfulness" be an OCD symptom? Wouldn't "mindlessness" exist more than anti-OCD behavior?

No. OCD is unwanted obsession and compulsions, and has nix to do with mindfulness. Mindfulness promotes attentive awareness of reality and calmness. More psychological treatments are now making utilize of mindfulness techniques
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Mindfulness
http://en.wikipedia....ess_(psychology)
While mindfulness meditation has its origin in Buddhism, you don't really need to believe in Buddhism. You just have to follow the techniques and many people from different walks of life use mindfulness meditation. Call up that unlike types of meditations are not the same and from what I accept read and then far only mindfulness/insight meditation has been seen as beneficial in assist treating OCD and anxiety.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 08:46 AM

Self help books are peachy but it'south not magic. I retrieve something chemical should be taken in to fix whatever it is that is going on in the brain of an OCD sufferer.

The writer Dr. Jeffery M.Schwartz, M.D does say medication can help fight OCD. He never wrote anything confronting medication. Some of Dr. Schwartz's patients apply medication and some don't. (As a doctor he is talking about prescriptions.) OCD is a circuitous disorder and unlike people will have different levels of severity. I will say though that medication is like training wheels on a wheel for a new rider. Proper medication makes it easier for you lot to deal with the OCD while you are on it, but it does non teach how to handle your OCD. IMO the all-time way to fight OCD is a combination of things that piece of work

Helps fight OCD:
1. CBT (Professional or self-aid washed correctly)
two. Proper medication (Prescriptions by doctors or psychiatrists who understand OCD)
3. Inositol (Shown positive result during studies, too many OCD forum members gives positive reviews)
four. Mindfulness/Insight meditation (reduce overall feet and fearfulness, increase focus and attentiveness)

Worsens your OCD:
1. Alcohol
2. Cigarettes
three. Illegal street drugs

I should start to add links to my posts, only information and the enquiry for everything I posted in this thread can exist found in Google.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 10:29 AM

I've been experimenting with different dosage of inositol. My first try of it was 500 mg in the morning time and 500 mg at night (1 gram daily total). The 2nd twenty-four hours I stepped it up to i gram in the morning and 1 gram at night. Not certain I feel annihilation noticeable. I usually split up my doses in 2 (morning and dark) since I don't desire to be conveying pills or powders in my pocket while I'g at work. It'southward just easier to recollect to accept information technology first thing I wake upwards (morn) and first thing I come home (night) I'll stride upward my dosage soon. I'one thousand thinking of splitting eighteen grams daily into 2 (9 grams morning and 9 grams at night). Has anyone here tried it this way? Inositol taste neat so I accept no problem eating this all the time. LOL.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - xi:58 AM

You lot need to get your dosage way up. Subsequently near 6g you may temporarily accept gastrointestinal bug and/or loose stools, so you lot could split the 18g into 3 dosages. From what I've read inositol takes about 6 weeks to work, but hopefully you lot get relief sooner. Also, you lot should have five-HTP ready, especially if Inositol starts giving you carb cravings (serotonin running depression). 5-HTP also helps with OCD, I believe.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 12:22 PM

Luvox belong in the class of drug called SRI. I take tried something similar several years ago, Zoloft, which I remember is an SSRI. Information technology's for treatment of OCD, amidst other things equally well. I wasn't too crazy for it. Not sure what the departure is, if whatever, betwixt an SRI or an SSRI. I oasis't been on any prescription medication for over v years. My OCD has lessened throughout the years. I call up I'm doing well with simply "not prescription" alternatives.

Whether Luvox is an SSRI or an SRI is subject area to debate (possibly it is more than right to say its an SRI because it likewise has sigma1 activity simply them once again, Prozac is considered to be an SSRI and is not all that selective either). Ultimately, annihilation that has SRI backdrop is an SRI, the SSRIs are but more selective in that (which tin can be a skillful or bad, depending on the patient).

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Posted xviii September 2013 - 08:42 AM

Let me get dorsum to metallic toxicity as 1 of the causes of serotonin deficiency. Regarding the utilize of deodorants which has metallic every bit its ingredient. I just checked mines and its active ingredient is: aluminum zirconium tetrachlorohydrex GLY (18.2%). Its purpose: antiperspirant. There'south a few warning on the dorsum of this deodorant which is an AXE deodorant, stating: "ask a doc before use if you accept kidney disease". Weird warning considering it's only "a deodorant". Looks like I need to expect for another deodorant that doesn't have metals as its main active ingredient.

Remember I mentioned me beingness a bodybuilder. I remember when I was doing a lot of bench press that I would have stretch marks all over my chest and under arms/armpits and peradventure the deodorant has somehow gotten into these stretchmarks which tin can be considered "cleaved skin". Deodorants have warnings that state "do not use on cleaved skin".

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 03:eighteen PM

Permit me go back to metal toxicity as ane of the causes of serotonin deficiency. Regarding the apply of deodorants which has metallic every bit its ingredient. I simply checked mines and its active ingredient is: aluminum zirconium tetrachlorohydrex GLY (18.2%). Its purpose: antiperspirant. There's a few warning on the dorsum of this deodorant which is an AXE deodorant, stating: "ask a md before utilize if yous have kidney disease". Weird alarm considering information technology's just "a deodorant". Looks similar I need to look for another deodorant that doesn't have metals as its main active ingredient.

Remember I mentioned me being a bodybuilder. I recall when I was doing a lot of bench press that I would have stretch marks all over my breast and under arms/armpits and perhaps the deodorant has somehow gotten into these stretchmarks which can be considered "broken skin". Deodorants take warnings that land "do not use on cleaved skin".

Employ the old spice deodorant that isn't also an anti-perspirant. I read the listing of ingredients on mine, and there was no aluminum to exist seen.

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 09:26 AM

oh I run across. and so get a deodorant with no antiperspirant. Other things that have aluminum in them are antacids and blistering powders. I don't utilise antacids simply when I found out blistering powder has aluminum on some of them I'm thinking that everything we swallow that involves bread (pizzas, sandwiches, etc) could have aluminum in them since they take baking powder in them for the most part.

My bathing antibacterial soap has titanium dioxide as its ingredient. Not sure if it'due south something to worry nearly since soap gets washed off with h2o.

Ii of my teeth has metal fillings in them. I'k not sure what type of metallic is unremarkably used to put metal filling on teeth. I read it'due south mercury. I'm looking for info. on how to become this removed and replaced with a safer alternative if information technology's even bachelor. The reason why I had metallic fillings on my teeth was because my teeth had some rotten spots so the rot had to be removed and so replaced with a metal filling. It looks silver. I think I remembered the dentist calling information technology silver metallic filling. I retrieve I've had it done right BEFORE my symptoms of depression/OCD started showing so I am now thinking that this metal filling on my teeth had something to do with my disorder.

Permit me go dorsum to metallic toxicity as ane of the causes of serotonin deficiency. Regarding the use of deodorants which has metal as its ingredient. I simply checked mines and its agile ingredient is: aluminum zirconium tetrachlorohydrex GLY (18.2%). Its purpose: antiperspirant. There's a few alarm on the back of this deodorant which is an AXE deodorant, stating: "ask a doctor before use if you have kidney disease". Weird warning considering it's just "a deodorant". Looks like I demand to look for some other deodorant that doesn't accept metals as its chief active ingredient.

Call back I mentioned me beingness a bodybuilder. I remember when I was doing a lot of bench printing that I would take stretch marks all over my chest and under artillery/armpits and possibly the deodorant has somehow gotten into these stretchmarks which can be considered "broken skin". Deodorants take warnings that state "do not utilise on broken skin".

Use the old spice deodorant that isn't also an anti-perspirant. I read the list of ingredients on mine, and there was no aluminum to be seen.
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Posted 03 October 2013 - 05:13 AM

I'm glad I stumbled upon this thread. Afterwards some communication from Joel a while back, I began taking inositol at 18g per twenty-four hour period. Initially, there was some gastrointestinal upset and gas, but it went away after a calendar week. I have been splitting my doses in two (ix in the forenoon and at night), and I am going to continue this for a few weeks. After two weeks, I have noticed some balmy improvements which have been incredibly uplifting. I besides supplement virtually 500 mg of CDP-choline per day although I am not sure if this is enough.

I am considering adding five-HTP later a few weeks, just I read that information technology tin interact with many different supplements and drugs in a negative way. I take modafinil/dextroamphetamine regularly, equally well as NALT, ALCAR, theanine, fish oil, multivitamin due west/ ALA, magnesium citrate, vitamin C, melatonin, and the occasional noopept/aniracetam when I do not use stimulants.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 05:49 AM

what's the cheapest source yous guys have found for bulk inositol? a cursory search on iherb points at Jarrow's, though @ 18g per day that nonetheless works out to about $50+ a month.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:26 AM

The cheapest I could find was here: http://healthsupplementwholesalers.com

They send costless for orders over $25. There is a ten% off coupon lawmaking out there floating around so wait effectually for that online.

1KG of Inositol was near $26 when I bought it. At present the price jumped to close to double. I guess there was demand for it. The price seem to fluctuate I noticed. eighteen grams a mean solar day should last shut to ii months if yous have 1KG of powders. I only take 12 grams a twenty-four hour period (I read this is the dosage for low issues), for OCD bug it would exist about 18g a twenty-four hours. My OCD is not every bit bad equally in the past so I am ok at 12g a twenty-four hours for now. My depression isn't as bad either but Inositol gustation so proficient I could take more of this.

what's the cheapest source you guys have establish for bulk inositol? a cursory search on iherb points at Jarrow's, though @ 18g per solar day that however works out to about $50+ a month.

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